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and telling the parents this -- >> i want to say i am sorry for the loss of your son. >> freedom for the man accused of murder? is it right? i'll ask judges from florida. and the police beating that burn down los angeles. >> can we all get along? >> 20 years after the not guilty verdict, what does king think about trayvon and race and what it takes to keep america great? my exclusive interview ahead. from seinfeld to the second in command. >> did the president call? >> no. >> julia louis-dreyfus as the vice president. is she mocking sarah palin? i'll ask her. and a pushy mother and the ghastly prom queen billboard for his daughter. this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. our big story, george zimmerman granted bail and perhaps hours away from froo em.
the man will be released on $150,000 bond. zimmerman apologized publicly to trayvon's parents today in court. the prosecutor grilled him about it. listen to this. >> why did you wait so long to tell mr. martin and the victim's mother, the father and mother. why did you wait so long to tell them? >> i was told not to communicate with them. >> dramatic moments in court. new details in a moment. also rodney king has a lot to say about trayvon's case. in 1991 he was beating by police officers. the officers were acquitted by a mostly white jury. that set off days of riots. he is with me tonight for an interview on keeping america great, trayvon martin and what he thinks of the police today. and everyone's favorite sitcom star. on politics to her love life. we begin with our big story.
george zimmerman granted bail after saying sorry to trayvon martin's parents. with me now is natalie jackson, the co-counsel for the martin family. obviously pretty dramatic day today in many ways. what was the family's reaction to george zimmerman being granted bail and also to his public apology? >> the family was prepared for george zimmerman getting a bail. we talked to them about that. so they were prepared for that. what they weren't prepared for was for george zimmerman to get on the stand and pretty much grand stand. we had talked about this yesterday. his attorney had reached out and also his attorney made media statements that george wanted to meet the family. we said this is not the proper time or place at this point. this was the first day this family has been in court and actually heard testimony and seen the killer of their son. it wasn't the proper time or place.
so it's easy to conclude this apology was not for the family, it was for george zimmerman. >> i suppose looking at it from his point of view he's been heavy criticized for not apologizing to date for what he did. and he felt it was his first opportunity to do so. could you blame him for wanting to do what everyone's been screaming at him to do? >> well, the apology is for the family. and if it's for the family and they tell you it's not the proper time or place. you don't do it just because you've been criticized. that just leads to let people know it was self-serving. >> obviously the legal process is now started. the arrest happened as the family wanted. i've interviewed them several times. i know that was the main thing they want after. if we now have a trial and if george zimmerman gets acquitted, in other words a jury concludes he was acting under the stand
your ground law as it stands in florida, how will the family feel about that? are they prepared for that eventuality? >> well, this family has said all along that they have full faith in the justice system. and they believe in angela corey. they believe that miss corey's ethical and knows what she's doing and the office knows what they're doing. they don't believe that miss corey would have brought this charge had she not believed zimmerman was guilty of murdering their son. that being said, once again, all along you've seen this family. this is a praying family. they trust in god. and they trust in what happens. and they also trust and believe in the justice system. and that's what this legal team has told them. so what happens is up to angela corey's office, it's up to this judge, and it's up to god. >> it was a very emotional day for the family. we could see particularly with trayvon's father. seemed to be in tears for a lot of what he was listening to. obviously very hard for them to
finally come face to face with the man who killed their son. >> yeah. it was. and i will tell you. we saw an interesting dynamic today. normally sybrina fulton is the person who is the more emotional one. and today it was really hard to sit by tracy martin as he hears information about the killing of his son. and see him so full of emotion. sybrina was comforting him. >> natalie jackson, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> with me now are two former florida judges carrie mills francis and silas. you're both very aware of florida law. it seems this will all come down to the stand your ground law and its application. first let me ask you judge larry what you thought of what happened in court. george zimmerman being set on bail of $150,000. would you have expected that
knowing florida law as you do? >> well, it was a discretionary call by the judge. the judge has to -- has to be proved in front of the court -- other than beyond a reasonable doubt like we have in a judge trial. here it has to be a great presumption that he's guilty of the crime. and then if there's substantial discrepancies in the evidence, the defendant has a right to bail. and here there was substantial discrepancies. but it was discretionary by the court. the judge could have ruled either way and we could have backed up the judge by our legal analysis. there's politics in the judicial system. it permeates all parts of it. as you know the judge in florida has to run for election for re-election once every six years. no one's blind to that.
in america there's two systems of justice. there's one system for the black population and there's one system for the white population. and many times the black folks get a shorter end of the stick in our justice system. and i saw it when i was in juvenile court. they would make an arrest of a juvenile for a shoplifting case. where if it was a white boy committing the crime, his parents would get a phone call and not have to go through the criminal justice system. >> let me bring in judge karen then. strong words from judge larry. do you agree with what he just said? >> piers, i have been in a legal community for well over 20 years. we have so many cases set for hearing in dade county we have a judge assigned just to hear the cases. what i saw today in that courtroom was one of the most inept hearings that i have ever seen.
it was very hard for me to believe that this case with all the national attention, the prosecutor calls in one detective and his first word was i didn't expect to testify today. the way the prosecutor questioned the detective, it sounded like he had been handed the file this morning. you have to remember a week or so ago, we hear angela corey tell us she did an intensive investigation. and i believe she did an intensive investigation. we got to remember the governor took this case away from the prosecutor in seminole county. he took this case away from the investigators in seminole county. that's what we heard from today. it's obvious because it's left everybody feeling they don't really have a case. i think what was very obvious is that this prosecutor didn't know about the evidence. this prosecutor doesn't know what the fbi investigation came up with. this prosecutor doesn't know
anything about forensics. he tries to bring in some conflicting testimony that the defendant has given. and we couldn't hear that. there was one thing that i did hear today. we heard him say that zimmerman said trayvon had his hand on his mouth and his nose and he was able to break away, grab his gun, and shoot him. how do you account for the 12 or 15 cries for help? i have said from the beginning that this case comes down to who was crying for help on the 911 tape. the prosecutor says today we have fbi evidence about the tape. why didn't that introduce that today? 101 in law school, you learn that florida is a wide open cross examination state. what that means is you are not limited in your cross examination by what is brought out in direct testimony. this grand standing today to allow zimmerman to get on the
stand and make a statement and then basically not be able to cross examine him, i have never seen that in my life. he may as well have sat on the stand and said i'm innocent. >> fascinating assessment there. for now, thank you both very much. >> i want two other attorneys to weigh in. fascinating comments i thought from the two judges who know florida well. let me start with you, if i may jeff ashton, as a former prosecutor, did they have a point there? what did you make of what they were saying? >> well, i don't really agree with at least the last commentator. it is not an usual at all for a witness -- the cross examination of a witness to be limited based on what's asked in direct. that happens every day in the courtrooms i've been in. i was not surprised judge lester
did not allow free rein. i felt that this hearing was handled as i expected. i didn't expect them to present a whole lot of evidence. i expected them to present the affidavit. to correct one of the judges who just spoke, the defense called the investigator, not the prosecutor. the defense seemed very prepared to cross examine the investigator about what he said in the affidavit and why. i thought that was done very well. i felt the prosecution in this case planned on presenting as little as they needed to in order to have the arthur hearing. so i did not -- i don't agree with the last two commentators that this was somehow done incompetently. >> roy black, you've been a defense attorney for many years. would you be confident if you were defending george zimmerman
now from everything you've seen, read, and heard? >> well, piers, i was really sort of shocked watching this hearing. the state gave these press conferences saying they do this very detailed examination. they charge this man with murder. yet they back it up with nothing in court. they say this man is a danger to the community. and they don't present any evidence that proves any of that. i'm very shocked that the state did not put forth any real evidence to support this charge. >> does that mean they don't have any evidence or does that mean they're holding it back for the full trial? what's your gut tell you? >> well, it may be they're holding it back. but how can you go in as an elected prosecutor saying we've charged this man with murder. not only that but we think he's a danger to the community so we ought to keep him in jail. but then not present any evidence to prove that.
that's what lawyers do. our job is to come to court and present evidence to a judge in a bail hearing like this. the judge wasn't presented with any evidence that this man was a danger to the community. he wasn't presented with any real evidence that this man was guilty of murder. how do you expect a judge to do a decent job in making a ruling when you don't give him any evidence? >> yeah. it's certainly a fascinating case. today was just one of many dramatic days. and i guess we'll all just have to wait and see how this trial unravels. for now jeff ashton and roy black, thank you very much. >> thank you. it's been 21 years since another infamous case of race and violence galvanized the country. the beating of rodney king still tough to watch. a black motorist pulled over in a car chase. the officers were found not guilty. joining me now is rodney king. the trayvon martin case must bring back a lot of memories for you.
and me motions. what do you feel about it? >> well, you know, i can't -- i feel that the pain that the family's going through. it brought back memories from 20 years ago. but i know that -- how the justice system works. it's a slow process, but it does work. you know what i mean? with the way the law is set in place. it's just a slow process. the most frustrating part is the wait. and because of how the law works in the country. but i don't want to jump to any conclusions. >> do you believe that race was a big factor in the trayvon martin case? do you think that george zimmerman was a racist who targeted trayvon because he was black? >> well, what i think is the laws are -- the rules are old
and a lot of them are outdated. and some people who tries to be -- to get on the police's side, to be overfriendly to make themselves likable and they have a little common sense about them and they know the law. sometimes they take the law into their own hands and they take it too far. law enforcement get to a point where they say we're tired of doing our beatings. we're tired of doing the killing. we're getting blamed for it. so we're going to leave it into the citizens' hands. >> the big question for this case is would george zimmerman have shot trayvon martin if he didn't know the stand your ground law existed? >> some people know the law and they'll go right to the edge of what they can get away with. and this case is no different. this is a case where the family deserves justice. bottom line. >> what do you feel about
trayvon's family? >> i feel sorry for them, man. that was just a baby. he's just a baby. i feel sorry he had to pay with his life for that type of law. it's just -- we just got to wait and see how things turn out. and just hold on to our tempers and keep our country together like we're supposed to be. but we'll get -- we got to get through it and make sure that this never happens again. i'll never be able to hold a gun. i'm a felony. so if i had a gun and i could represent myself on hold my ground, i don't know how my mind would change. i don't know. i don't know. but i know that every -- some of those rules need to be changed and especially that stand your ground law. some people shouldn't have a gun.
>> i think that's true. let's come back and talk more about this. look at you and just see a policy. at aviva, we do things differently. we're bringing humanity back to life insurance. that's why only aviva rewards you with savings for getting a check-up. it's our wellness for life program, with online access to mayo clinic. see the difference at avivausa.com.
back now rodney king has written a new book. "the riot within." time for keeping america great. it's a regular segment we run. one of the key things america has to deal with is the issue of race. and how it has moved forward from the days of '60s and '50s. still there's a sense of there's a lot of racism in this country. and that black people don't generally get a fair equality yet in this country. what do you think of that? >> you know, it's probably a whole stigma also because you got to look at the way our country was built. it was built, you know, from slavery days and the process of getting to where we are to this day, to modern day. there's always going to be some type of racism. that's up to us as individuals
in this country to look back and see all the accomplishments that we have gotten up to this far. >> when you wrote the book, what are your feelings when you finished it towards the officers who did what they did to you that day 21 years ago? >> first of all, thank goodness that i stayed alive. i mean -- >> could you really believe it was happening in your country in america that you were being effectively beaten to within an inch of your life for being black, it seemed to most people. >> yeah. i mean, it happens all -- it used to happen all the time. for it to happen to me, i never thought it would happen to me. >> have you forgiven, in your mind, the policemen that did what they did? >> yeah. i've forgiven. america has forgiven me. i've been in this country all my life. it's one of the wonderful things
about it is you get to have a second chance. and i've been given a second chance, you know. >> despite how awful the incident was, do you think that the whole episode and all the notoriety and attention it got, did it in a strange way benefit your life, do you think? going forward? >> oh, yes. that's what i'm saying. i'm here. if i was anywhere else in the world, i would have been dead by now or shot and killed. i wouldn't have been able to have my book out after 20 years. it took 20 years to get this far. had i been in the '50s, i wouldn't have survived through it. there wouldn't be a book writing. there wouldn't be no book. so i wouldn't have any grounds to tell my story. >> how do you feel now about the police? >> i have much respect for them. much respect. because i've been -- they've --
some of them have went out their way over the years to try to make it up to me. i say it's okay. not all of them is bad. but the ones that are just messes up the whole program of what they really trying to do. but i know that we definitely need them. i do appreciate having the police. >> it's good to see you, rodney. i'm glad you've written a book. it's a very powerful and emotional book. it tells an extraordinary book. there's no sense of self-pity or bitterness. you tell your story honestly, i think. for that it has raw power. i appreciate you coming in. >> thanks. >> and good luck with your life. next, from seinfeld to a new sitcom, julia louis-dreyfus joins us. [ male announcer ] if your kid can recognize your sneeze from a crowd... you're probably muddling through allergies.
play. the vice president in hbo's new political drama comedy. it's called veep. and you join me now. >> i am how are you? >> i love how you were laughing at yourself uncomfortable dancing there. >> could you imagine if you were dancing like that? >> that's how i dance. >> it is? >> pretty much. when you look back at seinfeld, even we brits love seinfeld. the whole world loved that show. when you do something that huge, what is life after seinfeld really like? do you still look on scenes like that with affection or does it become this terrible curse you wish you'd ever been involved with? >> hardly. it was a complete blessing. i grimace because -- i'm making fun of myself doing that. there's an element of being -- there's a feeling of some shame
and humiliation watching that. but i just feel very blessed to have had that experience. who knew that would have happened. >> when you first started? >> seinfeld? i thought we would have been canceled. >> at who moment do you start thinking actually this could be huge? >> i think i never really caught up to how big -- honestly to how big it was until right before we ended. >> really? >> i swear to you. i think for a couple of reasons. first of all, it did take awhile for the show to become a big, big hit. it took four years. then all of a sudden we were an overnight sensation. and in addition to that, i was having my babies during this period of time. i have two boys who are not baby anymore. but still. i was very sort of going back and forth to work and mothering and work and mothering and i remember when we were shooting
the final episode and they had to put up -- like screeners in front of the stage to keep people from looking in with telephoto lens. i was shocked anybody gave a crap. >> didn't 100 million people watch that? >> i don't think it was 100 million people. >> it wasn't far off it. >> really? >> it was like a super bowl. the whole of america stopped to watch you. >> wow. we have a fact checker here? >> if i'm exaggerating, go with me. >> it was. >> whatever it was, it was a ridiculous audience. i'm being clarified. it's 76 million. >> wait. i have 95 million. they're telling me. >> we are splitting theirs here. you sound affectionate about it.
do you have seinfeld reunions in a dingy bar in manhattan? >> we get together on a daily basis. >> do you ever meet? did you all go off? do the ships pass out of the port and that's it? >> we do see each other on occasion. in fact, we got together -- i guess it was last year. and we did the -- or the year before. i don't know. time's off for me. but anyway, we did the thing on curb your enthusiasm. that was pretty wild. because that was like being in a time capsule going back in time and we recreated the sets. it was very strange. and nostalgic. >> have you ever worked out in your head why it got so big? even though you weren't aware at the time. now you look back and realize the phenomenon of seinfeld. it always will be. reruns all the time. what is it about that show, do you think? >> well, i think it's a couple things. first of all, i think it's lightning in a bottle.
a lot of good fortune, everything kind of lined up. having said that, it was a singular vision. we were left alone to your own devices. people didn't get in our way. people meddling with the sort of dare i say artistry of the process. and it was good casting. and we made ourselves laugh doing it. and i think if you can have a very good time and genuinely enjoy what you're doing and believe in it truly, you're not faking it at all. i think that comes through the material. >> elaine was very opinionated. >> yes. >> are you? i get the sense you're a political activist. you like to have pretty strong and views about your country in politics. >> well, i mean, you know. i'm -- yes. the answer is yes. i mean, i'm opinionated. i'm not running for office myself. i mean, i'm -- norman lear once
said -- he said that having celebrity is something you spend. you can spend it down. and so i have on occasion sort of used my celebrity to share -- to put a shining light on certain issues that i think need looking at. and a lot of them for me have been environmental. >> let's look at one of these. have a watch of this. >> president obama said let us be the generation that ends the tyranny of oil. man, that was great. except i just checked and right now big oil is still pretty much running the show. but mr. president, you've got a fabulous chance to turn that around and make good on your word. >> yeah, that was me. >> strong words for the president. >> no. not so strong. very supportive, in fact. and fortunately for us the president in the white house did the right thing on the key stone pipeline and didn't allow it to go forward. all of that aside, i'm not an authority.
i'm not an expert. i'm not a scientist. and i don't pretend to be. but like i say, i sort of use my celebrity to help and also frankly as a citizen i like to be vocal and and i vote and support certain candidates. >> will you be backing obama in november? >> are you kidding? 100%, man. >> figured you'd be a mitt romney kind of girl. >> no. that's not my guy. >> let's take a break and talk about your new show veep. palinesque field. you couldn't be more different than her. >> correct. >> let's discuss after the break. you think you take off all your make-up before bed. but do you really? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover erases 99% of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. can your makeup remover do that?
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you need me to sponsor this bill. >> yes i do. i do need you to do that. and i want to know what you need from me. what do you need? nonearmark earmarks. support during your re-election campaign? i just won't be photographed eating a phallic food. oops. that was a mistake. >> julia louis-dreyfus playing the vice president in her new show. i was watching it today. there's another scene where you're the vice president and you get told the president's having heart murmurs and you can barely contain your glee.
like i've got this. and you realize how awful this looks. dark but funny. >> thank you very much. >> it's a nonpartisan show in the sense you never declare your political allegiances. >> we never identify the party she is in. you never see the president, as a matter of fact. the show is -- it's -- the way that the politics and white house and capitol have been portrayed in the past very well is either sort of very nobly like the west wing which was a wonderful show. or sinister. and this is between the two. it's a show about political behavior. and it's just sort of to -- our show shows sort of the raw grittiness of life in politics. >> do you like the freedom that hbo gives you? because you're able to use profanity. there's racy sex scenes. >> yeah. >> it's full on isn't it. >> it's [ bleep ] fantastic.
>> you can't say that on cnn. >> don't you have a bleeper here? >> we're going to have to now. that whole dream dies. i had you down as this virgin figure. >> oh, please. you don't know who you're talking to. you have no idea. >> it's hbo though. it is liberating in that sense. >> absolutely liberating. it has been -- but not just because of the language. i have to say, there are very -- armando ar nucci who's a brit and he's the genius creator behind the show and the director. he has a very specific way of working and this is hbo being supportive of the process. so there's a -- there's a respect there for the artist and the -- and what you're creating. >> inevitably, you play a female vice president, there will be comparisons to sarah palin. she has been the only one who was even remotely near that role. did you have more or less sympathy for her by the end of
your process? just on what it takes to be a vice president. >> i have -- i have more sympathy for all women in government. i think that being a woman in a position of power is tricky, and -- but important. and crucial actually and i think the more women we have in power the better off our country will be. that's for sure. >> more sarah palins? >> no, not more sarah palins, inpyen. >> i'm just clarifying. >> thank you. i would like a hundred female more democrats. that's what i really like. but it is -- it's hard to be a political person. male or female by the way. but speaking -- >> you're in a profession where women have become increasingly dominant in many ways. do you sense the proper equality in america, anywhere near it?
>> you mean in politics? >> anywhere in america. >> it's interesting because all the issues are transvaginal probes. >> how did we get to transvaginal probes? >> we're talking about women in power. >> that's the most alarming segue i ever had. >> and yet you're wrapped -- >> i answered. i answered. i answered. i said -- i answered. i answered. i said -- >> clarify yourself. i know where you're going with that. tell me. >> what i mean is that i'm hoping that -- here's what i mean. >> you mean as long as we have states in this country and governors that approve that kind of thing for women, there is no real equality? >> yeah, absolutely. >> because men would never have to be ordered by a state to do that, purely for reasons connected to birth control? >> exactly. >> that's the sort of politer way of putting it. >> good. you handled that very well.
>> what did you feel then about the whole republican debate about all these social issues? seemed to me it was a very strange way of trying to win a female vote. you can see romney's numbers going down with women. because hang on, this is our lives you're talking about. >> well, it didn't work for him. it hasn't worked. so it will be interesting to see how they'll try to shift it back around. because they will. >> sharp flip-flopping? >> i know. i have seen it and i'm seeing it. >> what do you make of your country right now generally? >> i love it. i don't know. i don't know what that question means. >> we have a regular segment calmed keeping america great. i chose that because it's more positive than saying everything going to hell in a hand cup. and as a successful business woman and actress, you have had your finger in many pies. what is the problem, what is the solution for america? >> i have no idea. >> yes, you do.
>> no, i don't. >> you must have thought about that. what about for your kids? how are we going to get there? >> i want my children to be active. i want them to -- you know, just -- i want them to vote. i want them to be active. i want them to give back. i want them to be kind and compassionate. what else? >> that's good. are enough americans pursuing that line of ambition, do you think? good old fashioned american values? >> how about the whole world? how about the idea of compassion and kindness across the board. this is why i'm not running for office. >> this is the -- why you should be running for oufls. >> all right. i'm going to run. i'm announcing my run -- >> this is fantastic. >> it's happening right now. on the spur of the moment. i'm running for office. >> wow! >> what office do you think i should run for? >> i would go on the anti-transvaginal probe. on that bombshell, let's have a break. >> oh, [ bleep ] me.
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>> i get in my truck, my car, my tank. >> okay. >> that's really good. i just kind of -- >> this is fantastic. >> no, no. please don't -- cut it, cut it. >> love in my heart. >> praise the lord. >> fantastic. >> bless you. >> that was julia louis-dreyfus on "saturday night live" with your husband. brad hall. he watched you do that, and decided he wanted to marry that woman. >> he came around to it i guess. >> what part of that did he fall in love with? >> i'm not sure any part. >> you're a little bit crazy, aren't you? in a good way. >> yeah, you think? >> yes, definitely. >> tell me about brad. you have been married 25 years. >> 25 years in june. yeah. >> two sons. 14 and 19. >> yeah. >> charles and henry. >> yeah. >> i have two boys at this age. a bit of a handful. >> yeah, but i like my guys. i mean, it's really funny
because i come from a family of all girls. and so each time i got pregnant i was convinced i was going to have a girl and i was utterly shocked i had a boy each time. and completely -- it's just a miracle these two children of mine. you know, they're the lights of my life. >> and do most actors tend to be neurotic, paranoid, insecure wrecks. >> right. >> how about the pair of you who are in the same profession, you managed to stay happily married for 25 years? >> first of all, we're separating. no, i'm kidding. [ laughter ] i think -- i got lucky and i chose the right guy for starters. and -- >> how did you know he was the right guy? >> here's the deal. i realized it early on. i was so sure of it that i knew if i told anybody they'd tell me i was crazy so i can't it to myself. >> i love that. >> there's your answer. >> that's fascinating. >> yeah. i knew -- i was really -- i thought he was so -- yeah. i just knew it. oh, my god, that's him.
okay. well, i can't tell anyone. >> you feel lucky? >> i do feel lucky. i am lucky. i don't feel lucky. >> not as lucky as he must be. >> he's luckier. >> do you make each other laugh? >> oh, yeah. >> who makes the other one laugh more? who's funnier? because there's an "snl" battle every day? >> no, it's not an "snl" battle. but who's funnier? i don't know how to answer that. we have a good time. together and we share the same interests and -- and he's a good companion, i think. it's nice to go through life together. >> i like this story. >> seriously unbelievable if three weeks after this airs that -- never mind. >> are you seriously about to split up? >> no, i'm kidding. i'm kidding. >> you're talking about your relationship. i'm going to look stupid. >> that's what i mean. you're going to look stupid.
>> it's been a real pleasure to meet you. >> thank you, so much to be here. >> good luck with the show. i think it will be a good hit. i have a feeling. you have british writers and you starring. what could go wrong? tune in. >> i appreciate it. >> nice to meet you. >> thank you. so nice to meet you too. coming up next, only in america. [ male announcer ] if you have yet to master the quiet sneeze... [ sneezes ] [ male announcer ] you may be an allergy muddler. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin® because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. love the air. [ sneezes ] on the first day you take it. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule. the first technology of its kind...
good morning, i'm carolyn. talk from your heart. in 15 minutes we'll give you a signal. are we ready to roll? here we go. >> hey, kids. i know that you're angry with me and you should be angry with me. the difficulties that you have faced over the years, that's my fault. hold on a second. >> you can see that sadness, that guilt that they had for whatever decision they made that's impacted their children their entire lives. >> when you set these fathers down in front of that camera, they're dad. >> i can't imagine with all the things that's going on in these
for tonight's only in america, pushy, pushy parents. you see it in school, on the field, in pageants. in contests small and large. moms and dads putting pressure on their kids to succeed and often putting their own interests above their children. i saw it week after week on "america's got talent." my heart used to sink for the
poor kids who used to chase a parent's dream. but few of them matched the shamelessness of a woman from texas named tammy day. she loves her little daughter brandy. of course they do. most love their little daughters and she wants her to be the prom queen for the school. what mother wouldn't? but this is a point when normal mothers and tammy day part company. you see tammy, really, really, really, really wants to see little brandy become the prom queen. she's so desperate to make this happen she's paid $1,300 for this gigantic billboard to publicize brandy's credentials. vote brandy for prom queen. forgive me if at this point i reach for the sick bucket. tammy remains unrepentant. >> families feel that, you know, it's a little too much or over the top, you know?
for one night, you know, prom. but then again, it only happens one time in your child's life. >> voting for the high school prom court occurred on monday, but the winner won't be announced until tomorrow night. i hope that brandy day loses not because i blame her for this, i don't. because she's just a kid. because if she wins then her mother will continue to push push push into even more unedifying world of exploitation. my message to tammy day is simple. if you truly love your daughter, put her chces on the same playing field as the rest of her time mates. she'll thank you in the end. from cnn cenin